Paraphrase 2023-02
“I also think that, ultimately, this was the first step in proclaiming that games are just like movies, and that they are all entertainment.”
What it documents
Regarding Al Pacino's appearance at The Game Awards — which Keighley and Baker presented as a boost to the medium — Kojima said he believed one goal behind it was to elevate the medium of games, but that ultimately it served as a first step in declaring that games are the same as movies and that they are all entertainment.
Source
HIDEO KOJIMA presents Brain Structure, ep. 23 «Troy Baker» (Spotify Studios × Kojima Productions); official English dub, own transcription, 2023-02 (00:30:08–00:30:23). View source ↗
“Yeah, I definitely think that one of the goals behind this was to raise the medium of games, but I also think that, ultimately, this was the first step in proclaiming that games are just like movies, and that they are all entertainment.”