“But characters don't just move on their own. You have to find a part of yourself within them. Otherwise, you can't visualize them vividly.”
When Peele said he cannot write a character with the empathy it deserves until he finds how and why that character is himself, Kojima told him that he creates fascinating characters and that he is the same: characters do not move on their own; you have to find a part of yourself within them, otherwise you cannot visualize them vividly. Kojima concluded that in that they are the same.
“I have to get to a point where I know how and why each character is me and what it means to me. […] Jordan, you create such fascinating characters. And I agree, I'm the same way. But characters don't just move on their own. You have to find a part of yourself within them.”